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23 August 2010 @ 06:04 pm
Evermore, chapter 6 part 1 (transcript)  

In which Miles pisses me off.

 

(The recording thing didn’t go as planned so I’m going to write what I said in the first half. )

Now before I begin with this chapter I want to discuss my view on sex in books: I don’t mind it at all. I can and have read through sex scenes before. I can mention several books I love where sex happens: Stardust, Good Omens and Soulless.

Also teens talking about it doesn’t shock me. Sex is one of those topics I believe should be talked about and I have with my sister . So nobody can accuse me of me hating this chapter on the grounds that I’m asexual. Asexuality is the lack of sexual attraction not the hatred of sex.

All I ask of this book or any book or any book when it comes to sex is:

  1. Make sense in story. Don’t just add it for giggles.
  2. Make sense with the characters
  3. Be well written
  4. (For bonus points) Be funny or clever

I don’t mind if Damen and Ever do it or not by the end of the novel, but if they do I want them to have these points. But after this chapter I have no faith. Then again I’ve been wrong before. Now on to the story!

Previously in Evermore: Ever’s wonderful friends invited Damen to her house even though she has stated she wants to avoid the guy. They are selfless like that.

Now this chapter starts with school being over. On her way out Ever encounters Damen who tells her he can’t make it. Ever is pretty much “Ok, no problem about it.”  However Miles is seeing this scene from the parking lot and is not pleased.

He asks her what happened with a glare. Ever gets defensive and says he cancelled and that it wasn’t her fault. At this point I want to say that he was waiting Ever because she is going to take him home. Ever is doing him a favor spending gas on the guy so he doesn’t have to walk home or wait for his parents or something.

Miles then sighs and says “Please don’t get mad” And you know that nothing good follows that sentence. It’s like somebody saying “Please don’t get offended” before saying something extremely offensive.  And I did get mad by the way, Godzilla size even. But hey, maybe I’m in the wrong here.

 

"For one thing, you're completely knock-down, drag-out
gorgeous-at least I think you might be, because it's really
hard to tell when you're always hiding under those ugly
stretched-out hoodies. I mean, sorry to be the one to say it,
Ever, but the whole ensemble is completely tragic, like
camouflage for the homeless, and I don't think we should
have to pretend otherwise. Also; I hate to be the one to
break it to you, but making a point to avoid the completely
hot new guy, who is so obviously into you, is just weird."

 

  1. Thank you Miss Noel for that insight into your character. Because Ever is not just pretty, she’s gorgeous. How else could she stand next to Damen, after all. And I don’t mind pretty characters, but this is not the first time the author feels she has to explain that Ever is the most beautiful girl in class, but her misery makes her hide her shinning looks under the dreaded hoodie. Even though hoodies are not that bad. I wear hoodies when it’s cold and I’ve had boyfriends. Ever biggest hurdle in looks is her personality. She’s miserable and people don’t usually date miserable people, much less self imposed misery.
  2. At what point did Damen stated he was into Ever? Or showed he was? He arrived yesterday so they’ve barely talked and the conversations they’ve had are pretty normal except for the fact he feels its necessary to invade her personal space. Also he cancelled without an explanation nor a reschedule. What, does Miles thinks Damen read “the rules of dating” and figured he was being too easy and is waiting by the phone all alone for her phone call just to say he’s too busy?
  3. If he likes her then let her be. She’s obviously doing something right since she accomplish something you two are trying too hard to get and failing. Stop trying to change her for a guy! Change is something that should come from oneself for oneself.
  4. Just because he might like her doesn’t mean she has to like him back.  But no, that’s not right because he’s just that hot. Which bring me to the next quote:

 

He stops long enough to give me an encouraging look, as I
brace for what's next. "Unless-of course-you're gay."

 

Yeah, because Damen is so hot that either you worship him or your gay. Never mind that the spectrum of like is as big as the world itself and nobody can fit it completely. All sorts of people like all sorts of people. Some girls prefer tall guys, or  artistic guys or thin guys or sensitive guys. Others have a certain skin color or eye color or body part that just melts them. Also there are other sexualities where Damen wouldn’t fit like asexuality and pansexuality and people with fetishes that would clash with Damen.  Ever even points out:

 

But I just shake my head and hit the brake. Just because I
m not interested in Damen doesn't mean I'm gay," I say,
realizing I sounded far more defensive than I intended.
"There's a lot more to attraction than just looks, you know."

 

Although the author ruins it by following it with:

 

Like warm tingling touch, deep smoldering eyes, and the
seductive sound of a voice that can silence the world

 

Can I just say what’s up with the word smoldering and this book?! It shows up in every chapter. Is this a running joke like Psych and pineapples? Am I supposed to spot the smoldering?

 

Anyway, sensing that I’m not pissed enough yet, Miles follows that up with this lovely quote:

 

"Is it because of Haven?" he asks, not buying my story.
"No." I grip the steering wheel and glare at the light, willing
it to change from red to green so I can drop Miles off and
be done with all this.
But I know I answered too quickly when he goes, ''Ha! I
knew it! It is because of Haven-because she called dibs. I
can't believe you're actually honoring dibs! I mean, do you
even realize you're giving up a chance to lose your virginity
to the hottest guy in school, maybe even the planet, all
because Haven called dibs?"

 

I have no words yet so many words about what’s wrong with that!

  1. She stated before the dibs came into play that she doesn’t want to do anything with the guy. Stop forcing her.
  2. So what if she’s honoring dibs! As much as I hate Haven, she did let her feeling known. As her friends you should respect that and aim to avoid hurting her. Why are you trying to put these two girls in a situation that will end in hair pulling and eye scratching. I swear this guy thrives in the misery of these two for lulz.
  3. Why are you treating sex with Damen as the highest honor anyone could aspire to? Three days ago this guy wasn’t even in your mind and there might be other guys or things that would be better. Looks alone does not establish the end all and be all of things.
  4. Does the author realize that by writing that she has reduced Damen’s character to just being smoldering. Miles gives no other incentive to give this guy a chance. He didn’t find him funny or smart when he talked to him.
  5. How dare Ever not loose her virginity , if she has it, to the hottest guy at school. What better way is there?! To somebody you love? Ha! That’s just stupid. How dare she waste this chance. She should just spread her legs and tell Damen to put his smoldering penis into her smoldering vagina so they can have smoldering sex until the smoldering hours of the night. (No, I am not letting that word go!)
  6. Why is Ever being a doormat?! Tell him to get off your car right now woman! He’s not treating you with respect.  He’s not trying to understand your feelings or views, but shove his down your throat for his amusement. She should just tell him: “It’s my fucking problem if I want to fuck him or not so leave me alone you fucking asshole” or something like that. 
  7. Finally, what makes me feel most mad is that we’re supposed to take Miles side. We’re meant to agree with this jackass. Be at bated breath over these two lovebirds just getting together even though there’s no real reason as to why. I’ve quoted all their talks, is there anything in there that would be the founding blocks of a relationship?

Well I feel better. But really, am I wrong at being mad at this guy? I don’t think so.  Anyway, until next time this is Shaolina signing out.

(Chapter six, part 2)

 

 
 
 
Feeling: pissed offpissed off
 
 
 
Carakaslacarakasla on August 24th, 2010 03:07 am (UTC)
This is stupid. Why does Miles have to be such a douche? What does this all need to happen? Does the author suck so much at character development and building a relationship that she has to resort to pathetic matchmaking?
(Anonymous) on August 24th, 2010 03:58 am (UTC)
Yes, yes she does.
Miss Shaolinashaolina on August 24th, 2010 02:43 pm (UTC)
It's not only stupid but offensive. I was not prepared for that. You should have seen me the first time I read this. Because I've been fed similar crap by people I can't call friends. And this is even worst because what he's doing is bound to cause chaos between Ever and Haven
zelda_queenzelda_queen on August 24th, 2010 04:28 am (UTC)
No, you're right, I also was greatly irritated by Miles. Seriously, if I were driving the car, he'd be on the side of the road. My friends in high school might have spent all of their time trying to force me to straighten my hair and wear black and start dating, but they never told me *who* to date. That's personal business!

And is it just me, or is Miles' behavior similar to those three obnoxious, slutty blond girls from "Beauty and the Beast"? I mean, you could pretty much sum up that chapter with "What's wrong with her? She's crazy! He's gorgeous!"
(Anonymous) on August 24th, 2010 10:03 am (UTC)
"Straiten my hair and wear black..."
Lol, that's what the girls who sit beside me in class try to get me to do. Although, they're usually trying to STOP me from wearing black. (Now that was why I only have four close friends :D)
God, Miles irritates me, too! And he's only known Ever, what, six months? So has Haven, which makes me wonder, where are her REAL friends? Y


(Anonymous) on August 24th, 2010 10:07 am (UTC)
...You know, the ones you've known since middleschool or elementry. Or even any of her old friends. Apparently she had SO MANY but she cut off ties with ALL OF THEM? (Note to self: Hug those four friends, even the guys.)
(I need an account XD) Peace,
Valkyrie.
Miss Shaolinashaolina on August 24th, 2010 01:00 pm (UTC)
Friendship is a matter of quality not quantity. I myself has always been a person of one best friend, very few friends and a couple of acquientances. It's a joy to have one friend who will be there for you no matter what. So yeah, make sure to hug your friends and show them you love them and respect them.

The whole friend thing got confusing in the other half of this chapter. There's a character that has been mentioned before that the author can't seem to make up her mind about who he was for Ever.

And you should make an account. It's fairly easy to use.
Miss Shaolinashaolina on August 24th, 2010 01:34 pm (UTC)
He's such a jerk and she's driving him home. I was pulling my hair at this point of the book. No words! And it's not just the make over or the projection of his feelings towards Ever. He's supposed to be Haven's friend too, but he's setting up a situation where his two "Best Friends" will end up at ends with each other. All for a guy that arrived yesterday and none of them know very well. Who, by the way, may not be into none of hem. That's not something a friend does.

Lemina has never expressed my rage better than this post. With friends like this indeed!
watson8888watson8888 on August 24th, 2010 03:11 pm (UTC)
Smoldering! I'm so glad you pointed that out. My friend and I read Evermore at the same time, which made it fun even though neither of us liked the book, cause we'd call each other up and talk about what annoyed us in each chapter. "Smoldering" was right at the top of the list. In fact, it shows up so much that we ended up texting each other whenever we spotted a new "smoldering". And...that was a lot of texts...
Miss Shaolinashaolina on August 24th, 2010 03:25 pm (UTC)
XD Smoldering is my favorite thing in this book now. When I did the audio it was the only thing that made me laugh. I just started describing everything as smoldering. It's just a weird word to use to call somebody hot and the overuse just kills me. Although there hasn't been any puns with the name Ever at least. Like for Ever sounding like forever or no Ever and never.
aikaterini: Mewtwo - Angeraikaterini on August 24th, 2010 04:11 pm (UTC)
Okay, now I really hate Miles.

/Just because he might like her doesn’t mean she has to like him back./

Thank you! Miles and Haven were insisting that Ever pay attention to him *before* they had any idea of what Damen thought about her, and now that Miles thinks that Damen likes her, Ever automatically has to be with him?

You know what, Damen doesn't even have to stalk her or harass her at this point. Ever's so-called "friends" are doing it for him.

/Yeah, because Damen is so hot that either you worship him or your gay./

The fact that Noel has her actually gay character say this speaks volumes. So, Miles, *you're* gay, so that automatically means that you're attracted to every guy who walks by you? You have no preference when it comes to men? You do realize, Ms. Noel, that this statement is a reverse of a common (and cruel) stereotype about gay men, which makes it even more ironic that it's coming from the mouth of a gay character.

/Why are you trying to put these two girls in a situation that will end in hair pulling and eye scratching. I swear this guy thrives in the misery of these two for lulz./

If that's true, then he's even more of a selfish jerk than he already is. Best friend, my foot.

/How dare Ever not loose her virginity , if she has it, to the hottest guy at school. What better way is there?! To somebody you love? Ha! That’s just stupid./

The moment that Miles said that was the moment that I officially began to hate him. I HATE that attitude. I hate it with the passion of a thousand suns. I've heard that sentiment a thousand times and I am SICK of it. Yeah, what a loser Ever is for still being a virgin in high school! Everyone knows that before you graduate, your goal isn't just to get your diploma, but to lose your virginity by then! Because if you don't, then you're a loser. There are no virgins in college, you see, and if there are, then they're just a pack of ugly morons who can't get laid. Because, you know, it's not like they maybe wanted to wait until marriage, or they couldn't find anyone to date, or if their high school relationships weren't that serious, or maybe they're asexual, or maybe they were more concerned about schoolwork, sports, after-school clubs, and actually getting into college than hooking up with somebody. Nope, they're all just losers because the only things that matter about high school are prom and getting laid. *seethes*
Miss Shaolinashaolina on August 24th, 2010 04:48 pm (UTC)
You know my pain so much that it hurts. XD You captured my feelings of rage at that last quote pretty well.

I wanted to burn the book at this point... and then I remembered that I can't. I had to content myself with exploding for half an hour or so and record me ranting (I clocked an hour). This chapter as a whole is so wrong. Part two made me shudder and I even had to call my sister in confirmation that a 14 year old would not do that. This book has changed mental category from "It sucks" to a big, fat middle finger right in my face and I was not prepared. When I started I thought this was a silly little novel, but this is so wrong. I think that's why so many people are extreme fans of HP, it's a YA masterpiece next to stuff like this instead of just a good book series. Even I'm seeing it in a better light.


/Thank you! Miles and Haven were insisting that Ever pay attention to him *before* they had any idea of what Damen thought about her, and now that Miles thinks that Damen likes her, Ever automatically has to be with him? /

Oh, but she must. How can Ever fight off the smoldering smolder that is Damen the smolderer? Us simple minded females (and gay men too since they have girly brains) can't fight it off. Nope, we must surrender to the smoldering penis now, since there isn't anything else about him that's worth enough to be mentioned.

/If that's true, then he's even more of a selfish jerk than he already is. Best friend, my foot. /


I know! I'm just waiting for the token BFF stand where they state how much they love each other to just laugh. Because I recognize this type of story and I know at some point we'll have a "fight for our friendship" or group hug or break somebody off a spell or rescue one of them or some BS like that and I'll remember these chapters. These 3 aren't friends!


And that last paragraph of yours? (Stands up and claps) Again, you know my pain growing up so well. I never cared for sex, always found more pleasure in reading and I'm not ugly nor horrible. I just don't care, never have and chances are never will. I know lots of girls who would either react with apathy or shudder at Damen because the guy does not know what personal space is. He's kinda creepy. Plus so far he has no interests, no funny jokes or a warm personality. So not my type! And unless he plays video games, is snarky and funny I know several girls would would just call him eye candy and not want a relationship with him. There's nothing but his looks so far and this is chapter six with Ever dealing with peer pressure over being with him (and us agreeing with Miles because they are obviously soulmates. They are both pretty after all!)

Edit to say that we also mustn't forget that he is saying this while getting a ride from Ever. This guy is being a jerk, itching to create chaos as she wastes gasoline on him. That was the cherrie in my pissed off sunday.

Edited at 2010-08-24 05:29 pm (UTC)
aikateriniaikaterini on August 24th, 2010 07:23 pm (UTC)
/How can Ever fight off the smoldering smolder that is Damen the smolderer?/

*laughs* I guess that "smolder" is to Evermore what "chagrin" is to Twilight.

/And that last paragraph of yours? (Stands up and claps)/

Thank you! :D

/Again, you know my pain growing up so well. I never cared for sex, always found more pleasure in reading and I'm not ugly nor horrible. I just don't care, never have and chances are never will./

Me, too! I just got so sick of people asking me, "Why don't you have a boyfriend?" It's just never been a high priority for me. It also didn't help that I went to an all-girls high school (which certainly didn't stop a lot of girls in my grade from dating guys, but still) and thus the only exposure I got to boys from our brother school were the jerks on my bus or the guys I acted with in drama (who were nice and all, but who had girlfriends already, were gay, or were just my friends). I always found more pleasure in reading, too. ;)

Plus, some of my friends didn't have boyfriends either, at least none that I knew about. For those of my friends who do, if they do happen to mention their boyfriends, we usually talk about them for about a minute before moving onto another topic, which is why I can never understand why girls in movies and YA fiction can only talk about boys.

But yeah, whenever I read something by someone who claims that sex makes the world go round and anybody who's not interested is a freak or gay, I just get really irritated. I mean, who wants to bet that if Ever did sleep with Damen and then later got into a heated argument with Miles, he'd quickly use her sex life as an insult? That's another thing I hate. If you do "lose your virginity to the hottest guy in school," you're a prostitute; if you don't, then you're a "frigid prude."

/Edit to say that we also mustn't forget that he is saying this while getting a ride from Ever. This guy is being a jerk, itching to create chaos as she wastes gasoline on him./

Here's a note to Ms. Noel: harassing your friend to sleep with a guy that she barely knows and doesn't want to know isn't matchmaking; it's peer pressure. Kids are always told to resist peer pressure when it comes to drugs; they should resist peer pressure when it comes to sex, too.
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